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Ray Shaw

Ray Shaw

1974-1981
23

146 CFC Games Played

201 CFC Goals

Date of Birth
27 April 1954
Recruited From
Preston
Collingwood Debut
Round 1, 1974
Height:
175cm
Weight:
70kg

Biography

As a boy, Ray Shaw was as diehard a Magpie supporter as you would find. He and his sister Judith would watch Collingwood every week, always getting to the game before the start of the reserves to soak in as much of the week’s football action as possible. When he lobbed at Collingwood in 1974 he was a cheeky 19-year old suddenly thrown in to play alongside his childhood heroes including Len Thompson and the Richardson brothers. Many players in that situation would have been overawed, but not Ray Shaw.

“It was a bit difficult to settle in at first,” he said in 1991. “But I sort of just shoved my own way in. I’ve always been a bit of a talker, on the field and off it, and I didn’t want to just sit in the background like a quiet little mouse. I thought no one would notice me if I didn’t say anything. This was where my big mouth helped me — I seemed to talk to everyone and get on well with everyone, and sort of pushed myself into the club that way.”

On the ground it was much the same. In fact, you could not shut him up. He was always baiting opponents, chatting to umpires or talking to his own teammates. Like Lou Richards 30 years earlier, that was one of the great strengths of his game. “On-field talking is a skill as much as any other part of the game,” he says. “It’s just that it usually goes unrecognised. Even if you don’t get a kick yourself you can still do a heap of good for your side. People don’t appreciate how important talking is, but I reckon it was one of the main features of my game.”

In those ways, Shaw’s self-proclaimed “big mouth” helped him. But it also hurt him. More than once he spoke both frankly and publicly about what he perceived to be problems with the club. He has always believed in speaking his mind, but his comments have not always been well received by those in charge. Some of his most famous outbursts were saved for annual meetings in the early-to-mid 1980s, including one where he questioned the appointment of Leigh Matthews as assistant coach to Bob Rose.

But even if those comments cost him – and Ray’s brother Tony was just one who felt they might have harmed his chances of coaching at Collingwood – Ray was never the type to back away from saying what he felt.

It is that sort of feisty, combative attitude which helped make Ray Shaw such a valuable footballer.

Ray is the eldest of the four Shaw boys, and the competitiveness of their childhood sporting contests is now legendary. None of the boys liked to lose — at anything — and fights were commonplace. The toughness, determination and will-to-win that a background like Shaw’s breeds was all too evident when Ray (and later his brothers) hit the footy fields.

Ray’s earliest football experiences involved filling the role as mascot for VFA team Brunswick, where Ray’s dad, Reg, played. Ray first played as an eight-year old for St Stephens in an under-13 side, then progressed through Keon Park Stars to McLeod/Rosanna in the Diamond Valley League. Even at an early age Ray showed the desperation and competitiveness that was to become a Shaw trademark.

As it became clear that Ray had more than a little talent, he began to set himself goals. His four main ones were to play for Collingwood, to rove to Len Thompson, to captain Collingwood, and to lead them to a Premiership. For a while it looked as if he might not get to first base; as a 16-year old he was turned away by the Collingwood under-19s. Instead he spent two seasons with McLeod/Rosanna, then crossed to Preston in the VFA. So good were his performances that year (1973) that he won the Liston Trophy and was invited back to Collingwood.

Despite an injury-interrupted pre-season, Shaw was included in the senior line-up for the first game of the season against Essendon, and had the pleasure of kicking a vital goal late in the game. It was a good debut season for the plucky youngster, who took off club awards for the best first year player and best player in the finals.

Over the next seven years Shaw won a reputation as a consistent and clever rover/forward. He regularly won a lot of possessions and almost always used them effectively. His skills were good and his disposal first class. Around goal, in particular, he rarely wasted a kick and he was regarded as one of the VFL’s most reliable kicks for goal on the run. He usually produced two or three goals a match, and also had a habit of kicking goals early in games. In fact, there was a dream patch he went through where he kicked the first goal of the match eight weeks in a row! Ray was not outrageously quick (though he was probably still the fastest of the Shaw boys), but he read the play well and quickly developed a good understanding with his long-time idol, ruckman Len Thompson.

He also became famous as one of the select band of players who always wore a long-sleeved jumper, a habit that started in junior football when he was trying to hide his skinny arms. (For the trivia buffs, Shaw once did wear a sleeveless guernsey — for about a quarter, on a wet day when his long-sleeved jumper became too heavy after an all-day soaking.)

At the end of 1977, crushed by the disappointments of that year’s two grand finals, he left to captain-coach in Tasmania: he just had to get away. But Collingwood would not clear him, and after only eight weeks in charge of Devonport he was back.

Strangely enough, the sojourn in Tasmania did wonders for Shaw’s career. As playing coach he had had to do everything he had asked of his players, so he came back fitter than ever. In addition, the break from Collingwood had refreshed him mentally. The end result was his best year of senior football, one which included interstate selection and the coveted Copeland Trophy. When Len Thompson was dumped at the end of that season, it was Ray Shaw to whom the club looked as its next captain.

That meant three of his four ambitions had been realised. The fourth was destined to remain tantalisingly unfulfilled, and eventually passed to his brother to complete. He lasted just two years as captain, losing the post in 1981 to Peter Moore. Ray remained as vice-captain (a little reluctantly) but missed much of the season with a knee injury. At the end of the year, only days after the club’s third straight grand final failure, coach Tom Hafey told Shaw he was too slow and should look elsewhere.

Shaw was shocked and shattered at being dumped by the club he loved so much. He was still only 27, and other VFL clubs were interested. But Shaw could not handle the thought of playing against Collingwood and his old teammates. “I just had too many mates here, and I didn’t want to play against them,” he said. “I couldn’t have stood coming back and playing against them in front of the crowd that had looked after me for so long — that would have been very difficult.” So Shaw turned his back on League football and went to Preston for three years before enjoying stints at Greensborough, Waverley, Oakleigh District, Reservoir/Lakeside and Lalor.

He returned to prominence at Collingwood in the noughties when his sons, first Rhyce and then Heath, became significant figures in the Magpies’ on-field fortunes. As a Magpie through and through, little else could have given Ray Shaw greater satisfaction.

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Statistics

CFC Career Stats

Season played Games Goals Finals Win %
1974-1981 146 201 20 60%

CFC Season by Season Stats

Season GP GL B K H T D Guernsey No.
1974 21 23 19 358 59 417 23

1974 Season stats

Hide Season
RD VS Result GL B K H T D Guernsey No. Match Report
Round 1 Essendon W 1 2 16 2 18 23 View match >
Round 2 Hawthorn W 1 1 13 2 15 23 View match >
Round 5 Carlton W 2 1 22 3 25 23 View match >
Round 6 Melbourne W 1 17 3 20 23 View match >
Round 7 St Kilda W 2 2 14 6 20 23 View match >
Round 8 Geelong L 1 15 5 20 23 View match >
Round 9 Richmond W 2 2 21 2 23 23 View match >
Round 10 North Melbourne W 1 22 10 32 23 View match >
Round 11 Sydney W 1 1 17 3 20 23 View match >
Round 12 Essendon W 1 12 12 23 View match >
Round 14 Fitzroy W 2 10 10 23 View match >
Round 15 Western Bulldogs W 21 3 24 23 View match >
Round 16 Carlton L 1 14 4 18 23 View match >
Round 17 Melbourne W 1 11 5 16 23 View match >
Round 18 St Kilda L 2 2 17 2 19 23 View match >
Round 19 Geelong W 2 1 19 3 22 23 View match >
Round 20 Richmond L 18 2 20 23 View match >
Round 21 North Melbourne L 1 1 23 1 24 23 View match >
Round 22 Sydney L 15 2 17 23 View match >
Elimination Final Western Bulldogs W 2 1 26 26 23 View match >
Semi Final Hawthorn L 3 1 15 1 16 23 View match >
Legend
  • #Guernsey
  • GLGoals
  • BBehinds
  • KKicks
  • HHandballs
  • DDisposals
  • MMarks
  • TTackles
*Player goal statistics included VFA (Victorian Football Association) results.
1975 16 18 12 249 33 282 23

1975 Season stats

Hide Season
RD VS Result GL B K H T D Guernsey No. Match Report
Round 3 Fitzroy W 1 2 19 1 20 23 View match >
Round 4 Geelong W 9 2 11 23 View match >
Round 5 Western Bulldogs L 13 4 17 23 View match >
Round 6 Richmond L 1 10 2 12 23 View match >
Round 11 Melbourne L 0 23 View match >
Round 12 Sydney W 1 3 16 8 24 23 View match >
Round 13 Carlton L 2 21 2 23 23 View match >
Round 14 Geelong L 1 10 3 13 23 View match >
Round 16 Western Bulldogs W 10 2 12 23 View match >
Round 17 Richmond L 3 19 19 23 View match >
Round 18 North Melbourne L 1 16 16 23 View match >
Round 19 Essendon W 4 2 20 1 21 23 View match >
Round 20 St Kilda W 2 15 2 17 23 View match >
Round 21 Hawthorn W 2 1 27 3 30 23 View match >
Round 22 Melbourne W 2 1 25 2 27 23 View match >
Elimination Final Richmond L 1 19 1 20 23 View match >
Legend
  • #Guernsey
  • GLGoals
  • BBehinds
  • KKicks
  • HHandballs
  • DDisposals
  • MMarks
  • TTackles
*Player goal statistics included VFA (Victorian Football Association) results.
1976 15 10 16 280 40 320 23

1976 Season stats

Hide Season
RD VS Result GL B K H T D Guernsey No. Match Report
Round 1 Carlton L 1 19 1 20 23 View match >
Round 2 Sydney L 5 19 1 20 23 View match >
Round 7 North Melbourne W 2 20 1 21 23 View match >
Round 8 Fitzroy W 1 15 4 19 23 View match >
Round 9 Western Bulldogs L 1 3 16 16 23 View match >
Round 10 Essendon L 1 1 12 3 15 23 View match >
Round 11 Melbourne W 15 15 23 View match >
Round 12 Carlton W 2 27 1 28 23 View match >
Round 13 Sydney L 1 1 17 2 19 23 View match >
Round 17 Geelong L 2 20 3 23 23 View match >
Round 18 North Melbourne L 15 5 20 23 View match >
Round 19 Fitzroy L 1 2 23 1 24 23 View match >
Round 20 Western Bulldogs L 1 26 4 30 23 View match >
Round 21 Essendon W 1 19 9 28 23 View match >
Round 22 Melbourne L 17 5 22 23 View match >
Legend
  • #Guernsey
  • GLGoals
  • BBehinds
  • KKicks
  • HHandballs
  • DDisposals
  • MMarks
  • TTackles
*Player goal statistics included VFA (Victorian Football Association) results.
1977 10 13 13 123 32 155 23

1977 Season stats

Hide Season
RD VS Result GL B K H T D Guernsey No. Match Report
Round 1 Western Bulldogs W 4 2 18 5 23 23 View match >
Round 2 North Melbourne L 1 13 1 14 23 View match >
Round 3 Essendon W 1 2 10 3 13 23 View match >
Round 10 Sydney L 12 6 18 23 View match >
Round 20 Hawthorn L 1 2 1 3 23 View match >
Round 21 Sydney W 1 20 2 22 23 View match >
Round 22 Melbourne W 4 2 11 6 17 23 View match >
Semi Final Hawthorn W 2 1 13 3 16 23 View match >
Grand Final North Melbourne D 1 2 14 3 17 23 View match >
Grand Final North Melbourne L 0 2 10 2 12 23 View match >
Legend
  • #Guernsey
  • GLGoals
  • BBehinds
  • KKicks
  • HHandballs
  • DDisposals
  • MMarks
  • TTackles
*Player goal statistics included VFA (Victorian Football Association) results.
1978 23 49 29 371 134 505 23

1978 Season stats

Hide Season
RD VS Result GL B K H T D Guernsey No. Match Report
Round 1 Geelong W 4 2 17 2 19 23 View match >
Round 2 Essendon W 3 2 12 8 20 23 View match >
Round 3 Sydney L 2 12 5 17 23 View match >
Round 4 Hawthorn L 1 1 20 8 28 23 View match >
Round 5 North Melbourne L 2 1 16 4 20 23 View match >
Round 6 Fitzroy W 2 1 12 9 21 23 View match >
Round 7 Carlton L 3 3 19 3 22 23 View match >
Round 8 Western Bulldogs W 2 20 2 22 23 View match >
Round 9 Richmond W 1 16 7 23 23 View match >
Round 10 St Kilda W 1 19 8 27 23 View match >
Round 11 Melbourne W 1 2 18 4 22 23 View match >
Round 12 Geelong L 2 18 8 26 23 View match >
Round 13 Essendon W 4 1 14 7 21 23 View match >
Round 14 Hawthorn W 5 2 18 6 24 23 View match >
Round 15 Sydney W 1 1 16 4 20 23 View match >
Round 16 North Melbourne L 2 2 23 6 29 23 View match >
Round 17 Fitzroy W 2 2 16 5 21 23 View match >
Round 20 Richmond W 1 2 13 6 19 23 View match >
Round 21 St Kilda W 2 1 15 5 20 23 View match >
Round 22 Melbourne W 1 12 7 19 23 View match >
Qualifying Final Hawthorn L 4 16 4 20 23 View match >
Semi Final Carlton W 5 1 18 7 25 23 View match >
Preliminary Final North Melbourne L 3 11 9 20 23 View match >
Legend
  • #Guernsey
  • GLGoals
  • BBehinds
  • KKicks
  • HHandballs
  • DDisposals
  • MMarks
  • TTackles
*Player goal statistics included VFA (Victorian Football Association) results.
1979 24 27 37 396 158 554 23

1979 Season stats

Hide Season
RD VS Result GL B K H T D Guernsey No. Match Report
Round 1 Fitzroy L 1 8 4 12 23 View match >
Round 2 Hawthorn W 1 1 12 9 21 23 View match >
Round 3 North Melbourne L 2 2 12 6 18 23 View match >
Round 4 St Kilda W 4 2 23 13 36 23 View match >
Round 5 Western Bulldogs W 3 23 5 28 23 View match >
Round 6 Essendon L 2 1 21 14 35 23 View match >
Round 7 Geelong W 1 2 14 8 22 23 View match >
Round 8 Sydney W 2 18 10 28 23 View match >
Round 9 Richmond W 1 2 14 7 21 23 View match >
Round 10 Carlton L 1 1 20 7 27 23 View match >
Round 11 Melbourne W 2 4 17 5 22 23 View match >
Round 12 Fitzroy L 3 16 10 26 23 View match >
Round 13 Hawthorn W 1 2 15 8 23 23 View match >
Round 15 North Melbourne L 2 21 3 24 23 View match >
Round 16 Western Bulldogs W 5 18 5 23 23 View match >
Round 17 Essendon W 12 10 22 23 View match >
Round 18 Geelong L 1 7 4 11 23 View match >
Round 20 Richmond W 1 23 3 26 23 View match >
Round 21 Carlton W 1 1 16 7 23 23 View match >
Round 22 Melbourne W 1 1 24 10 34 23 View match >
Qualifying Final North Melbourne L 1 1 18 2 20 23 View match >
Semi Final Fitzroy W 1 1 14 4 18 23 View match >
Preliminary Final North Melbourne W 4 17 2 19 23 View match >
Grand Final Carlton L 0 2 13 2 15 23 View match >
Legend
  • #Guernsey
  • GLGoals
  • BBehinds
  • KKicks
  • HHandballs
  • DDisposals
  • MMarks
  • TTackles
*Player goal statistics included VFA (Victorian Football Association) results.
1980 26 46 49 420 123 543 23

1980 Season stats

Hide Season
RD VS Result GL B K H T D Guernsey No. Match Report
Round 1 Carlton L 2 13 4 17 23 View match >
Round 2 North Melbourne W 1 14 2 16 23 View match >
Round 3 Hawthorn L 1 3 14 8 22 23 View match >
Round 4 Richmond L 2 3 20 2 22 23 View match >
Round 5 Essendon W 1 2 10 4 14 23 View match >
Round 6 St Kilda W 3 15 5 20 23 View match >
Round 7 Sydney L 1 2 13 3 16 23 View match >
Round 8 Fitzroy D 2 2 15 5 20 23 View match >
Round 9 Geelong W 1 3 15 5 20 23 View match >
Round 10 Western Bulldogs W 3 3 14 1 15 23 View match >
Round 11 Melbourne W 4 4 20 2 22 23 View match >
Round 12 Carlton L 1 24 1 25 23 View match >
Round 13 North Melbourne W 2 3 19 14 33 23 View match >
Round 14 Richmond L 1 1 15 4 19 23 View match >
Round 15 Essendon W 4 1 20 7 27 23 View match >
Round 16 Hawthorn W 3 4 18 5 23 23 View match >
Round 17 St Kilda W 1 2 13 13 26 23 View match >
Round 18 Sydney W 1 1 15 2 17 23 View match >
Round 19 Fitzroy W 3 26 5 31 23 View match >
Round 20 Geelong L 1 15 3 18 23 View match >
Round 21 Western Bulldogs W 1 3 10 13 23 View match >
Round 22 Melbourne W 2 11 6 17 23 View match >
Elimination Final North Melbourne W 4 3 25 5 30 23 View match >
Semi Final Carlton W 1 3 14 5 19 23 View match >
Preliminary Final Geelong W 3 2 19 1 20 23 View match >
Grand Final Richmond L 1 3 20 1 21 23 View match >
Legend
  • #Guernsey
  • GLGoals
  • BBehinds
  • KKicks
  • HHandballs
  • DDisposals
  • MMarks
  • TTackles
*Player goal statistics included VFA (Victorian Football Association) results.
1981 11 15 16 129 41 170 23

1981 Season stats

Hide Season
RD VS Result GL B K H T D Guernsey No. Match Report
Round 1 Fitzroy W 1 4 11 3 14 23 View match >
Round 2 Western Bulldogs W 2 1 17 10 27 23 View match >
Round 3 St Kilda W 1 3 19 4 23 23 View match >
Round 5 Melbourne W 2 8 4 12 23 View match >
Round 18 Essendon L 1 5 5 23 View match >
Round 19 North Melbourne W 3 2 13 6 19 23 View match >
Round 20 Richmond W 1 7 3 10 23 View match >
Round 21 Hawthorn W 1 1 16 6 22 23 View match >
Semi Final Fitzroy W 3 10 1 11 23 View match >
Preliminary Final Geelong W 1 2 13 3 16 23 View match >
Grand Final Carlton L 1 1 10 1 11 23 View match >
Legend
  • #Guernsey
  • GLGoals
  • BBehinds
  • KKicks
  • HHandballs
  • DDisposals
  • MMarks
  • TTackles
*Player goal statistics included VFA (Victorian Football Association) results.
Totals 146 201 191 2326 620 2946
Avg/Game   1.38 1.31 15.93 4.25 20.18
Legend
  • GPGames Played
  • GLGoals
  • BBehinds
  • KKicks
  • HHandballs
  • TTackles
  • DDisposals

Key Facts

CFC Debut Number

744

Total AFL Games
146
Total AFL Goals
200
CFC Debut
Round 1, 1974
CFC Last Game
Grand Final, 1981
Recruited From
Preston
Full Name
Ray Shaw
Nickname
Rick

Awards

  • Most Determined Player
    1975
  • Most Consistent Player
    1978
  • Best Finals Player (Bob Rose Award)
    1974
  • Best First Year Player (Harry Collier Trophy)
    1974
  • CFC Hall of Fame
    2008
  • x2
    Team Captain
    1979, 1980
  • E.W. Copeland Trophy (Best and Fairest)
    1978
  • Life Members
    2017
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